Paige Albrecht Interview – Service, Resilience & Community in Lehi | Roots & Branches
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welcome to roots and branches of Lehi the podcast where we get to know the faces stories and lives that make up our
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community I'm Ryan Harding and I started this podcast as a way for us all to connect with the people we live
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alongside growing up in a small town I learned that connections go beyond blood they're built through shared experiences
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friendships and the moments we celebrate together each week we'll sit down with someone new from Lehi to share their
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unique story their passions and what they love most about living here so whether you've been here for years or
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just arrived join us as we deepen Our Roots and reach out to our branches one
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story at a
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time welcome Paige we have Paige alre here today my my former neighbor
Meet Paige Albrecht: A Former Neighbor and Attorney
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actually former neighbor yeah so we get to reunite again and also my helper with with attorney things too because you
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still work there so which you know I can neither confirm nor deny you have privilege yes so yeah cuz you I like it
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so tell us a little bit about yourself tell so did you grow up here in Lehigh where where you from originally no I
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wish I would love to claim to be a HomeTown girl yeah I'm I'm wondering how long you have to live here before you can I think you qualifi now I think
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you're at that point it's been 22 years yeah I think that qualifies you I'm from all over I was born a military brat in
Paige's Background: From Military Brat to Lehi Resident
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Hawaii okay my dad was in the Army he was an Army Ranger but he was doing it
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putting himself through school and all that so after they left the service they came back here to Provo and he got his Masters okay at boou okay went to work
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for IBM which anybody who's worked there's they'll tell you stands for I've been moved yeah you could move up faster
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if you went where the jobs were so we lived in uh let's see South Carolina which is where he was born and raised
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North Carolina Maryland just outside of DC and then I went to high school in Montana okay then Buu for school took a
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gap three years sure sure in Connecticut for a while as a nanny and Connecticut
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okay yeah so all over but for that reason it was great because I know people all over and I've experienced a
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lot of different environments but I really wanted my kids to have a HomeTown sure so when we were looking for a place
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to settle after college and whatever that's what we had our eye out for for some stability I guess in that regard I
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mean obviously moving around a lot would be hard to CU you your high school years were in Montana then I guess okay yeah
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okay yeah little Helena Montana Helena okay but my mom's she wanted to live a little closer to she grew up just across
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the border and she had this tiny little town it had 300 people in it when she was growing up um and they had these
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great traditions and this little general store and their little parades on the 24th and and I
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justed that yeah I really wanted to give my kids that experience um and and Montana same Montas is not it's not
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Pioneer Day in Helena they do vigilante day vigilante Day Parade but yeah those
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Hometown small town traditions where people have been doing them for generations and you feel really connected and grounded to a place and I
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wanted that for my kids so here we are I grew up in bismar North Dakota actually oh really same deal yep I uh that that's
Raising a Family in Lehi
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kind so also cold yes also cold yes that's exactly that's why when people complain about winters here in Lehigh
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like ah I mean it's it could be cold but not you don't you don't understand bitter cold you know with that
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windshield goes right to your bones it's exactly it I tell you what early morning Seminary yes at 6:35 in the dark of to
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Montana yes that's you either have to have really strong faith or really strong parents yes either one that's I
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can relate because again yes I remember those days very well so getting out of the shower I had hair back then and it
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freezing the the cuz it was wet you know you're trying to run off to school and stuff like that yeah no yeah different
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days Pat in the dashboard of your car you can do it yes I know wake yeah yeah yeah my dad was nice and he tried to
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make room in the garage for me to park my my car which was nice because otherwise oh yeah outside it just it was
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cold I grew up reading like Little House on the Prairie books and they would talk about the rope from the barn to the
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house so they could get firewood and I thought yeah then I moved to Montana yeah yeah no and then you start to see
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no lie yeah you don't see the the ground for many months so again whereas here
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you're a little bit nicer but yeah okay obviously raised your family here in in Lehi right my boys let's see Alex was my
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second son was oh gosh a year or so sure and I had three boys
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and so they don't really remember anything outside of college students or
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or anything like that and so they want badly to raise their families here sure and it's changed a lot but the things
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that we love about it all yeah yeah yeah no which it's yeah no it's a great place so then tell me so you mentioned you
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went to BYU and stuff like that what did you study did you study I you study I
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studied English at BYU okay qualified to do anything and nothing I thought I wasn't going to say anything Humanities
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I thought for a long time that maybe I would teach for like a lot of people the kids came along I graduated with one on
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my lap and one in my tummy and I knew if I didn't then that it I might not be able to so yeah pushed hard to the end
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got my bachelor's and then 20 years later I went back last spring I got my masters in public service okay so you've
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been back so another really high salary yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so let's talk about that though you've obviously gone
Paige's Journey into Public Service
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into public service so you're y you're on the city council yep okay and you've been you've been there for a little
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while now I think I've been there for a little while I did Planning Commission before city council I did that for three years and back in the day we had a board
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of adjustments for hearing land use appeals sure um we' moved to hearing examiner now like most cities have but
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did Board of adjustments for a year so I've been in public service for about 10 years now okay yeah okay good amount of
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time and what sparked that like why I'd
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love to say like some Noble CS or what yeah I was ticked off I think like a lot of people there were some things that
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that were bugging me yeah I guess it's a podcast so I can tell the story but you can tell the story this is the long form
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content stuff when we were down in college yeah my kids's Dad loved to play softball with his buddies and they had a
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softball team the great Bambinos and just really loved it and when we moved
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here to Lehi he didn't have his own team and he was signed up as a sub and they'd call and come play sometimes but he
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wasn't guaranteed a game every week sure and he missed it so I thought oh you I'll be the Fantastic wife and I bought
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him his own team oh wow for Christmas one year okay English major I wrote this really long poem about playing ball and
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what and for a couple years he had his own softball team in the leehigh men softball league and loaded it up with
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his buddies yeah we'd all spend that those evenings down at the park with our kids it was just a really great
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experience we loved it yeah 10 teams in the league and one year I went to sign them up for a softball team and they
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said we're not doing that anymore said why aren't you doing that anymore and they said we don't have the space we
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don't have the park space I so what's wrong with vets on me it's really too small and they're hitting balls into the
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street and it's a liability and a lot of reasons that on this side of it make a
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ton of sense and on that side of it just made me really upset sure I thought surely we can overcome these problems
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sure yeah 10 talking about 150 guys and whatever their families are yeah so I did a little research and I went into
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city council and I looked up the bios of the city council members and made a note of which ones mentioned parks and
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baseball got you say this ready I had researched lowly balls and what it would
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cost to put up nets yeah and I marched My Little Red Wagon into city council and stood up at the podium and I don't know what I expected to happen but
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nothing did okay they felt bad about it and wish they could help and mayor
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Wilson said we're going to bring it back and I said when and he said whenever we can and I left and just felt really
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defeated I thought it's not like I'm not willing to put in the work I'll help you make it happen all things like that but there was a lot I didn't understand
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about budgeting and space availability and scheduling and things like that sure but as part of that experience I
Challenges and Rewards of Public Service
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realized that I wasn't just mat I had really enjoyed it I stayed through the whole meeting and I went to the next
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meeting and then I started going to the Planning Commission meetings and for the better part of eight years I went to
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both meetings wow every week before you had any kind of before I had any kind
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yeah I loved it yeah when I was on Planning Commission I still went to the City Council meetings I just the whole
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process was fascinating to me the patience the persistance the investment
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that the people who are serving have in the community and the things that they go through to make things happen the
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whole thing I just found it really satisfying and I had never intended to run for office I was there for the
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entertainment value and because somebody else was putting the kids debate yeah yeah sure sure it was great and I would
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sit in the back corner and for a long time you could tell that they were like nervous what are you doing here are you going to sell us down the river or
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whatever and I I really wasn't I was just observing the process learning and figuring out how all those pieces fit
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together and work and so when Mark Johnson our current mayor decided he was going to step away from Council he asked
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me to run for a seat um and what I've learned since is that with a lot of women in politics it takes that tap on
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the shoulder before they even consider that's something they might be interested in doing sure I mold it over and we talked about it as a family and
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decided yeah we would I haven't ever had to run against someone I was running for an empty seat okay and then the second
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time I was running for my seat okay and the third time so I it it was never a
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confrontational the whole confrontational aspect of campaigning is really hard for me I don't like that because most people don't like that no I
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have a lot of um respect and admiration usually for everybody in the race and it's hard for me to sit and say oh yeah
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I'd be better than them this way this way this way yeah you don't yeah yeah that's very hard for me because anybody
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who's willing to throw their hat in the ring all the respect to the world yeah just because it is a huge time commandment right you're doing a lot of
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different things I I like that you really enjoy
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that part of it do you know what I mean as far I guess just being involved in it because and that I think that's a really
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good that shows how much uh you enjoy it or how how much of a good fit it is for you you know what I mean cuz what my my
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family always teases me that I enjoy Business magazines or different they're like oh man I hate that you know what I mean like I hate reading that but but I
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enjoy those things and so that's how you get good at something is actually yeah if you want to have any chance of getting good at something you have to
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spend the time on it and if you don't like it you'll never get good at it so well and in politics if you don't like it you're not going to Lost sure because
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like my kids will come home and they'll say oh mom somebody said this horrible thing about you on Facebook today yes
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but what you didn't see about the rest of my day is I got to interact with this resident and I got to attend the
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Historical Society marker unveiling and I got to go to the senior center and
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have lunch with people there things like that sure and those aren't the public Parts but those are the parts that you just are so deeply satisfying and you
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feel like they those really are the what matters sure so you try and shake off the rest I was going to say yeah how do
Community Engagement and Social Media
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you tune out the because we're we're live in a social media Society now so I would say people have greater access to
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public servants than they ever have especially on a local level people can say things on and and Paige comes in and
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says something back you can respond back I mean how do you I usually try and count to 10 at least smart that's
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probably a good idea right well and from the beginning I I was actually I don't know what I should tell people that I
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was I was there when they formed Lehi link which of course is the jugernaut of
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social media here in Lehi and I was reading the initial goals for it just yesterday because of the anniversary it's been like N9 years yeah and it was
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like to bring the community together and unity was mentioned things like that and
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all too often the opposite happens which is super unfortunate but I get it
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because it's an easy accessible way to air frustrations and things like that and it's like the Nightly News you know
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100 wonderful things happen for every story but that's what sells and that's what brings people sure and even you
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said hey I was ticked off that's why I went and that did start that process extra the extra pieces of knowledge I
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gained after that about how everything works I would still be ticked off and I'd be just like but the end of that
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story the moral of that story is uh 10 years later last summer I posted a
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picture M of my oldest boy playing uh with his brother on his own softball
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team in the Lehigh men softball league gotcha like it took a decade sure took a
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decade but we brought it back we finally were able to get the park space we got the lights up and Runing managed to move
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the mink farm all those dominoes fell sure finally in the right order and and
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that was a super proud moment for me because I thought you know what promise is kept yeah it it took a decade but
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well somebody that's enjoying that now probably I think that's good to for them to know hey that took 10 years to make
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happen yeah most of things in life are we're enjoying the fruits of probably other people's labors and even
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Generations before us and different things like that but but so that's an example right somebody else gets to enjoy that now and they don't understand
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hey a lot of effort went into that and in some cases years yeah and and it's
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not like it was me I had nothing to do with it it was like so many departments and staff and so many people that worked
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for it and when they said hey we don't want to end this we want want to keep it continuing they were telling the truth yeah they were just excuse me just take
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some time and sure and and the effort and it's like that with just about everything and I think it's harder now
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because we're so much more of a transient Society establishing those roots in a HomeTown is becoming rarer
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and rarer because you do you move where the jobs are or you go to a different area or things like that so it's hard to
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convince people yeah invest your time and your money and your hours of service and and your family's effort into
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building a community that you're moving away from next year you know yeah yeah it's hard to do that one of my hobbies
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that I love to do I love to go back and read old articles in the Free Press from 100 years ago yeah I get teased about it
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a lot actually again I like it yeah that's like wines Park yeah there are articles about how they sold trees like
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your family could sponsor a tree for a buck or whatever like Christmas trees or what kind oh no like the trees that are
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growing there now oh really oh okay like sponsor highway kind of thing is that that exactly yeah they they didn't have
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money in the city coffers so they let people contribute that way and they planted these trees and a lot of the
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descendants of people who bought those still live here but a lot of the people who enjoy those trees have no idea yeah
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that it was a huge sacrifice for families a hundred years ago but they did not put them in for themselves they
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did it for The Descendants for the people who come after that's funny cuz yesterday my my youngest boy came home
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and he said Mom are you cutting down the trees at Wines and I looked at him like son I've been here all day I've never
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and he said yeah there those on on the Southeast side I'm like those have been
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through their life Cent span and I said a lot of people will drive by and say why is the city cutting that down yeah
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we're not doing it because we had nothing to do sure of course on a Tuesday morning they've been through their LIF span I said Son go back by and
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drive and look and you'll see trees at all different ages planned throughout the park because our parks department
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has been planning for this for 20 years sure and they've gradually been putting them in and now this one is half dead in
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danger of falling over so yes they're taking it out yeah not me yes yes you
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represent to him the city right so you know and it's that way for a lot of people I think if you sit back and take
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the logic and you think what possible reason could they have for cutting down this TR well it's not to take you off or
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to make sure that you have to sit in the Sun for the parade Maybe a little deeper and think you know maybe it's not
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nefarious fair fair yeah yeah well I we probably often go to the negative do you
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know and and we live in a world that especially Federal politics you know like we tend to it's so far removed so
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they're obviously evil whatever side that you you disagree witheral politics we all do it but that's and that's one
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of the purpos of this podcast actually but is just to make things smaller make things more Community because if you
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know the person that you hate you're probably not going to hate them oh it's so true it's so true I love meeting with
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people for that very reason because that it's not a faceless whatever yes I'm not to them and they're not to me and and
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you can always find that Common Ground the Bridge Building is so important in politics and it becomes more and more rare it's just so polarized right now
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yeah and it's taking some of the enjoyment out of it sure there's not the same sense of camaraderie sure I don't
Collaborating with Neighboring Cities
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know we are doing some things to help though that hopefully will we recently started because I couldn't think of it
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I call it to myself and on my calendar the North Utah County task force but basically the city councils from
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surrounding cities we meet together about once a quarter we try and do it anytime there's a fifth Tuesday because we all have our meetings on Tuesday and
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we talk about things like transportation and common problems that our cities are facing and try and make it to where how
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can we work together to where our communities work in harmony instead of always being at odds yeah in terms of my
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space versus your space because we are we're growing together and that cooperation is going to be important un
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ing those bridges and and making those relationships is going to be key and any fruits from that that is this just
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beginning or you know uh we've been doing it for a few months now um it was
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incredibly helpful during the issues with the school district okay because
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that was really uncharted waters for all of us oh sure and it was a really difficult issue and it was nice to be
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able to bounce ideas off of each other and to know which direction everyone's going and ultimately we went in some
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different directions but kn knowing what page everybody was on was helpful knowing what issues everybody was
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talking about things maybe your city's thought about that my city hasn't and how could we work together in terms of busing things like that it was really
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helpful to forge those relationships and right now we have a really strong focus on Transportation making sure that we
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can be a unified voice in terms of lobbying for funding with the legislature and with Mountainland
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Association of governments and finding the solutions that work for every city and not just help mine and screw yours
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you know yeah and good things are coming with that I think right I mean you know for sure yeah we're we're making some
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Headway with everything else government moves slowly you think it'd be like just
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as simple as go down to the bank of government and write a check to Construction Company a and it's up let's get started yeah people it it's hard to
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look around and say you know you don't plan because there's planning going all all the time it's just not always on the
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same page and there's always funding issues and if we want nice things we have to pay for them and there's no
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question that the growth has exceeded really Beyond expectations yeah and the positive side of that is it's great and
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everybody wants to live here sure the negative side of that is it comes with some issues yeah for sure we're playing
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ketchup well yes and and but it sounds like you're doing a good job with I was talking to Mayor Johnson and he was
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saying that that UD do has accepted your guys' projections so I guess they had lower projections and and you guys are
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like saying hey uh the these are the ones and they now agree with you which is good right because that means things
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happen quicker than yeah so they're not building way far behind I think they're always building behind but not as far
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behind and the funding follows the construction which is something I didn't understand early on I'm like people are coming just build it now yeah with what
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you don't have the revenue to pay for the roads until you have the residence and so it's a chicken and egg scenario you hear the nightmare stories about a
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bridge to nowhere in Alaska or whatever and so there it's a tricky tight RPP Balancing Act and in cities with
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predictable reasonable growth I'm sure it's a lot more manageable yeah when you have
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explosive growth like this you're GNA have issues but it's we sit in the same traffic as everybody else yeah we know
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yeah yeah yeah and I always gigle a little even to myself because I'm like all these cars are in my way and I'm not
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getting where I need to go and then I think and I'm the one for the guy behind me that's in the way you know when
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people say my traffic's gotten so bad if you're sitting in it then you are it yeah that's yeah it's the same thing
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when oh man there goes the Farms there goes the horses the pastures but you built your house too right I mean you
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know and and I get it we all you know when do you stop it but then do you stop having kids then cuz you know it's your
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kids that are actually the ones moving there yeah and my my kids would love to settle in their Hometown they're
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probably going to have to start out in other places and then move home which is totally reasonable but it is true that
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it's that balance between property rights and yeah it's so funny we'd be talking about this because next door we
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moved here to downtown yeah partly because it is a place in Lehigh that feels like old there's a lot of things
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here that just haven't changed and my husband two weeks ago the house next
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door to the one where we live went up for sale and it's from 1899 Old Brick yeah house on the corner
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been here for ages we've got this historical society doing some digging on Whose it was and the history of it but
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if you want to control what happens on a piece of property the very best way is to own it yourself it's hard to tell your neighbors you can't do that when
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it's their properties so you walk the line between preserving property rights and also making sure that others have
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the right to enjoy their property as well and that's a becoming a trickier balance as Lehi grows because a lot of
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those infill spaces are growing together sure so sure uses are coming up against each other we're discovering things in
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the zoning that adjusting things like that but that's what I told my husband he's you know
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what if we don't buy it and what we learned was out of state investors wanted to buy it and we were afraid it was just going to be bulldozed and
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duplex is put in and we thought it's time to put our money where our mouth is in terms of preserving old Le High yeah if we want it then we have to yeah
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that's fair yeah which is why then weekends for the rest of my life repointing brick and refinishing floors
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well 1899 I'm guessing there's some needed work on that place you know there's some mystery jars in the crawl
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space interesting we don't know what's in them they're old yeah we're hoping it's not explosive nitroglycerin in
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there or something like that we're going to have to face that at some point but but yeah yes you good luck with that let
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me know the radius that I need to be away from yeah your building's close enough to that house you'll know I'll
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hear okay good to know yeah t so you know we're talking about Lehigh City a little bit anything cool come in our way
Exciting Developments in Lehi
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as far from a city perspective so many cool things yeah tell me tell me what's cool I don't know so many cool things I
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keep telling the different city departments because they're they are humble and modest to a fault they really
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are yeah there's a city employee newsletter that goes out yeah talks about everything everybody's doing I'm
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don't we publish this because people need to know how hard you guys are working and how many things you're bringing in anyway yeah we've got the
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new Civic Center yep it's going to have the new library y you can see it from here actually super excited one of the
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things that brought my family here to Lehi is it it had things we were looking for it had the legacy center yeah and
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not a whole lot of towns of this size did yeah it had a library yeah and there were a lot of towns in North Utah County
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that didn't have their own library but that Library had parts of the old Junior High cafeteria the roof was leaking yeah
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yeah we had originally thought we'd be able to build the new Civic Center around it and incorporate and things like that and it just turned out to be cost prohibitive and not worth pursuing
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but that should be done looking at late next year okay which is really exciting
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that is exciting can see it out my living room window and and so it'll have a library it'll have your the the council offices that's where and and
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then just community space what is how can I use the community space isn't that
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I can see why that would be something where people would be like what yeah I don't know if you've been in the Broadbent room in the new Public Service
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building the police station no uh when that was built it was a case of an old
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building sure being torn down and boy I was mad I was like oh no you know we can't and so they're like Paige come on
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a tour with us yeah so I did and by the end of the tour I'm like I can't believe nobody's died here yet sure it was it
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had some issues yeah and in terms of being able to fix it um I'm sure anything's possible with enough time and
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money and who Among Us wouldn't bring back the Tabernacle at any price but it was on the Adobe stick mud there just
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really wasn't a way to make it safe and the Broadband descendants actually said what do you yeah let's do it anyway tore
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that down to make the new police station yeah perfect location they needed it badly their old station didn't have
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appropriate evidence storage things like that we're yeah it just wasn't effective so they built this new police station
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but one of the things they built in it was a community room they call it the Broadband community room yeah and on the walls they used brick they saved brick
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from the old Broadband building and they have a little stained glass window in there was some things that honor Joseph
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Adams the officer that passed away for whom the building is named and some momentos from that time from the broad
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building sure and what we have found is that community room is booked really people use it like crazy I I mean
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anybody can come in and rent it we've had wedding receptions there and barbecues my parents had their 50th
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wedding anniversary dinner in the Broadband room okay um chairs tables little kitchen audio visual equipment
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things like that heavily used and we found that there's a need for those kind of community spaces where people can
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gather and so some of those rooms are going to be like that and and they're being constructed in a way that can be
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closed off to be bigger or smaller people could run classes there they could do receptions they could really
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Community rooms and it does two things it gives spaces for people to gather if they need to for pretty much any purpose
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but also it gives us Room to Grow for the future because we are planning for this to be a building that will be
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iconic for hundreds of years to come this is not a throwaway modern architecture steel and glass cookie
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cutter kind of a building yeah it is very different and because of that it can be polarizing there are people who
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are like ah what do you we put a lot of thought into it yeah into how we wanted it to look how we wanted the
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architecture to be classic hearken back to Lehi Roots but also be a building
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that super functional and will last the community needs for many years to come yeah the current city hall people are
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like oh it's so much money to spend and do we really need it the current city hall is largely unchanged from when I
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moved here 22 years ago and if you think about the change in population the staff
26:43
is stacked like cordwood in the building and it's not it's excessive staff they get amazing things done yeah considering
26:49
how few there are excuse me but there's just done place to put them yeah we have to and we're bigger before so we need
26:55
more people doing and we're still going to use the existing City Hall okay it's planning services are going to be in
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there a couple of other departments but we need the space but we want to be prudent with the expenditure sure and
27:06
make it something that'll last for Generations the police station will be sufficient until we're at full buildout
27:12
which will probably come in the next 50 years so is that community room just go on the website to book it obviously it's
27:19
not open yet and stuff I'm assuming there's a cost to it and stuff like that yeah I'm trying to remember what the Broadband room is say like 50 bucks it's
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it's it's very reasonable and I think you book it the same way you do with The Pavilions at the parks like that it's
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just a great beautiful space well that would be good yeah again nice to have that space like you said to be able to
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house all the different things that are going on here and it is the renderings look beautiful it looks like a really
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great building so right now it looks like a bunch of Steel wrapped in plastic San WRA yes see the vision but I see it
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I see it like I said I see it's going up here all the time going back to cool things okay so the public okay so what
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other things are coming here well we just opened family Park which is amazing yes okay y that was just huge and I
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don't know how much people know but we had really three regional parks projects yeah on the map as far as what we wanted
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to do yeah one of them was the Miller roads Forest Miller sports park down off
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of pioneer and 17th one was the Dry Creek Reservoir project which is a Cooperative with County and feds and it
28:24
was not primarily recreational it was to serve flood control sure more and then
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family park and what was happening is we were doing a smidge here and a smidge there and it was like nothing was ever
28:35
done and usable it was this 20 year whatever as a council we made a it was a really difficult decision but we decided
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to focus on one and getting it done and then move our Focus to another one yeah
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Park Tax really helped that was a huge amount of what helped us get family park to completion but it's just an amazing
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facility anybody who's been up there there people who have concerns about when it has to be closed and how it has to be
29:01
washed and we've already had some vandalism and things like that but there is such a positive vibe up there I have
29:06
a special needs son myself yeah um and for a long time Lehi didn't have anything like that when he was quite
Discovering All Abilities Parks
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young I visited my sister in Connecticut and she took me to an all abilities Park I was blown away I'm like oh my gosh he
29:19
can use the swings he can safely go his walker can go up the ramps to the play
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structure so he can to the slide on his own and I didn't even realize stuff like that was out there yeah and I came home
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and I sat down with our Parks director Steve marchbanks and poor Steve I'm like Steve and he started small with what he
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had we got handicap accessible swings at Wines yeah those are great fun I see
29:44
more typically abled people using them than special needs people because they're fun they're fun but it was a
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longtime dream of his a longtime dream of mine and a lot of people to make a park that would be fun and great for
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everyone but also accessible to people for whom there really wasn't anything
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else sure um so I think it's just a gem it's a jewel it's going to be a
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wonderful amenity for Lehigh residents for many years to come it's a generational Park yeah Regional draw so
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now we'll on to the next thing yeah I am glad I remember Parks being I because I
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think you were my neighbor when that first Park Tax had come out or something like that and ended up not passing and stuff like that but I'm glad that we're
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doing parks and stuff that's it's I like it when the money's spent here yeah you know what I mean like I have no problem
30:32
paying taxes when it directly benefits me or my family abolutely kind of thing yeah I'm PTA from back in the day sure
The Importance of Park Taxes
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that's where the roots are and one of the things I discovered on PTA is that quite often we would the the process was
30:44
we'd have a fundraiser and then we'd say okay what are we going to spend it on sure and that always frustrated me
30:50
because for two reasons the first one was I think a lot of people are like you
30:56
they're much more willing to open their wallets if they know where it's going and if you can say hey we need this play
31:03
structure on the playground or we need six new tether balls or something like that people are more likely to contribute to that yeah and the other
31:10
reason was I thought if if we don't have pressing needs if we don't already know what we need it for why are we doing it
31:16
yes why why go to the effort if you don't have a project in mind yeah so
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that's what I really love about the park tax is there's a huge vetting process people come in with their projects and
31:28
there's some very specific criteria Arts culture Parks all of those things and
31:33
there's accountability we had reports just two weeks ago where they came in and said hey this is what we spent the
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money on this is how many people have benefited pictures slideshow things like that to where you can have that direct
31:45
knowledge of exactly where it went and the huge accountability that comes with that yeah the other thing I like about
31:51
the park tax is it sunsets okay if the citizens don't want to renew it after 10 years they don't and it's not a thing
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where you have to vote it down it automatically expires unless it's approved on the ballot and renewed got
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so I think it's a great and it's how we got family park it really is how we got that across the finish line is having
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those funds and there it does a lot of things that maybe people don't see someone who was joking because they got
32:16
new bathrooms over at The Literacy Center because they only had one stall and it wasn't so they're showing pictures of bathrooms and everybody oh
32:22
okay good job but and maybe it's not exciting but it's super exciting to them and it helps when you've got a whole
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kids in there and you don't have one stall again yeah no and that's probably part of the reason the school district
32:33
thing going back to that's probably reason that passed a little bit too we want the money here right you know what I mean it's it's hard to be having our
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money go out to Saratoga Eagle Mountain or orm and hey Lehi Jr that's where my kids go okay we need let's upgrade that
32:47
building a little bit you know let's I like some more money here kind of thing and it made a lot of sense when the needs of the district were closer or
32:54
similar or things like that but there are Market different situations in other areas of the district and so I think it
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will be important to have local representation and spending yeah I was in support of that I was glad that it
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passed now we've got our work cut out of now we got work to do right yeah there's work to do to make it make it work and
33:12
it's going to be it's going to be challeng for a couple years yeah we like work is you change a lot of you make things better with work right pans our
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specialty right that's exactly it we shouldn't be afraid of work so no but well you got work Harding that's right
33:25
that's that's where I'm going yeah very that's right that's why I tell my kids all the time you'll if you're lazy
33:31
you'll have a lot more problems than if you work hard you know what I mean and so not that it fixes everything or anything like that but but it solves a
33:37
lot of problems you know just put your head down and start working things will work out yeah okay yeah when I was I had
Personal Reflections on Cancer
33:44
a little a little couple years of cancer experience and one of the most frustrating things to me was just
33:50
resting and staring at the ceiling yeah honestly it sounds funny now but it was huge that my husband set up a little
33:56
bird feeder outside the window yeah I would lay there watch the birds all day just waiting to feel better whatever and
34:02
my mother said to me one day you never were one for sitting around I thought that's so true I just I can't stand it
34:08
I've got to be doing something I that's me too no I don't I I I don't like to be
34:14
Idol you know what I mean I like to be doing something and uh good for your mental health it's good for your mental health it is no it is well and so I did
34:21
want to hit on the personal part there let's you mentioned the cancer and stuff like that how that's not an easy thing
34:26
to go through and that's something that puts mortality into perspective and hey is this it am I is this giv you a lot of
34:33
empathy yes yeah I it really I did not understand you think you do but you don't till you go through it but the
34:40
biggest lesson I learned about cancer let me backtrack a little I had
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something called triple negative breast cancer which is something that I had never heard of but it is the most
34:51
difficult to treat sure and it's the most aggressive and the highest rates of recurrence so it was a scary deal sure
34:58
and I learned a lot along that journey I learned a lot about myself what I could do it was hard to let things go I took a
35:05
leave of Ence from work my husband and I sat down and decided we could concentrate really on just one thing and
35:11
we kept city council I deferred my school enrollment for my Master's program and we concentrated on making
35:17
sure I had the strength to do my job for the city because that's where I got the most satisfaction it kept me going sure
35:23
he he says now he thinks it kept me alive sure your mental health going back to that right have a purpose yeah makes sense having a feeling of purpose so on
35:30
the dark days having City work that was really motivating and and it kept me going day by day but the biggest lesson
35:38
I learned having cancer is that the hardest thing is not to have cancer yourself but to to love someone who has
35:45
cancer because the torment that I watched my loved ones go through sure
35:52
and the helplessness I could tell that they felt and it was that was the most
35:58
difficult part of it it it wasn't the pain it wasn't the losing your hair or looking different or the sure steroids
36:05
or the chemo or any of that it was watching The Suffering of the people who loved me and the uncertainty that they
36:10
felt and the stress that they felt because of it so huge supporter of anybody whose family is going through
36:16
that because it is that's the hardest part of cancer it's for your family sure
36:21
through it but managed to fight through it yeah offloaded a few spare Parts Kumo
36:29
was successful they they say after 3 years my risk of recurrence goes down a great deal okay at 5 years I'll have no
36:36
greater risk than anybody walking around the street great and I'm at two and a half years now okay so that's awesome
36:41
yeah good job it's going great yeah it grew back yeah it grew back you look good I wish there was an easier way to
36:48
to gain empathy but experience tends to be one of the best teachers right going through some of these things some of my
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fellow Council people Paul Hancock and Chris coni they're both yeah you know they're both bald and we had a lot of
36:59
great jokes about which bald one do you mean I I realized that hats and wigs and scarves really not my thing yeah yeah
37:06
it's chilly but sure yeah you yeah yeah but you did it and and you're recovering
37:11
and that's awesome okay yeah well and again you're no stranger to difficult stuff special needs son yeah uh my my
Challenges and Rewards of Raising a Special Needs Child
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brother's special needs actually also I didn't know that yeah so he so my parents I can relate from a different
37:24
perspective as a brother growing up and it was always well different there's challenges that come with that and I
37:29
remember you know he him he would people would come over and he'd like hey Ryan
37:34
remember how you pick your nose or something it's like and sometimes people he'd share things that weren't even true and so then you're like why are you
37:40
saying this in Walmart yes exactly there's it but I think one of his special gifts is the ability to make you
37:46
humble yeah and my guess is same thing with your son I mean it definitely adds that Dynamic again to your life that
37:53
ultimately I think if you Embrace makes you a better person is it hard 100% yeah it's it's very difficult and so it is it
38:00
it takes a lot and it changes your your plans on your views yes I remember my I have three sisters and one day we were
38:07
all out of lunch or something and they were talking about what a relief it was that they didn't have to carry a diaper bag anymore oh sure and I wanted to
38:15
throw my fork or something I'm always going to carry a diaper bag right yeah always yeah I'll be 65 years old and
38:20
carry my kids diaper bag yeah it's just I have a different reality than you do yeah retirement looks different for me
38:26
daily living looks different I mean he's 24 years old and I literally have a kid in daycare yeah at 24 years
38:32
old yeah so yeah it's a it's a different reality but I get fantastic parking at
38:38
Christmas time and I go to the front of the lines at Disneyland so there I like that I like that going back to Lehigh
Transportation and Infrastructure in Lehi
38:45
City a little bit transportation we got some things coming there do we know Piner Crossing obviously is there was
38:51
some speculation on widening that a lot of people didn't love that cuz you'd push into some houses and have to do
38:57
that a lot buses and not old ones like people that built yes exactly recently and so then they're also
39:03
talking about hey just doing above the lake which obviously wouldn't disrupt as many people and stuff like that but
39:08
there I there's always disruption but do we have any where that's going I guess that's not done yet I'm one of Mayor
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Johnson's really big focus it really has been the center of his efforts is
39:22
solving transportation problems for North Utah County and the plan right now for Pioneer Crossing is they'll move it
39:29
I believe last I heard two five Lanes they're taking out the median yeah they won't have and they're taking out the bike Lanes lots of people were like I
39:35
didn't even know there were bike Lanes yeah yeah it's not like a bikable kind of a I know not a lot of people are on
39:41
there biking but yes yes so taking out those making it the five Lanes but one of them will be flexed so you can have
39:47
three lanes going rush hour change the direction of the lanes but the truth is
39:52
it's only one piece of a very big and complicated puzzle yeah that would say
39:57
the houses long Pioneer Crossing but even if you made Pioneer Crossing 12 Lanes it's not going to solve the East
40:03
West transportation problems we need more drains to the bathtub sure it can't just be one no matter how big that drain
40:09
is yeah there are a whole lot of different possibilities that are being looked at they had a meeting on the 18th
40:16
just a couple days ago of the fresh look Transit study the mayor went to that I'm
40:22
excited to hear how that came out he they have acknowledged that their projection numbers are a little bit off
40:27
sure yeah um we're trying for North up by point of the mountain Clubhouse Drive
40:33
Extension 2100 North is in design phase now that they should be staring that
40:39
Main Street obviously we're huge constrictions and we need to take traffic off of that yeah expanding
40:45
Pioneer Crossing 1700 1900 South down along the Lake Shore and then something
40:51
just off the Lake Shore and we really need all of them yeah but you know it's a tough sell yeah that's a lot of money
40:58
yeah um but we have a lot of constituents and it's time for our voices to be heard yeah we have been
41:04
pushed as far as we are willing to be pushed good yeah and that's part of the
41:10
usefulness of my North Utah County task force perfect is there strength and
41:15
numbers and when we have a unified voice saying it's not just this area it's not
41:20
just this area we are all demanding that you take action and pay attention to us
41:26
yeah yeah we have needs here yeah it it's a much stronger way to Advocate and the roads go through Lehi that are going
41:33
to Sarat spro mountain right exactly I mean so so it's not our traffic all the time right no so it's everybody's
41:40
responsibility to look into that and yeah and make sure that we get that fixed and we say there are lots of
41:45
pieces to the complicated puzzle part of the reason is jobs are here cheaper housing is there yeah so you get in and
41:50
out every day the last number I heard was like 30,000 people yeah in and out
41:56
of the city every day yeah so as Commerce grows out there and they have more jobs out there then they'll be less
42:02
back and for like that but there's always going to be those waves that peak hours yeah and and that concerns me
42:10
because it's a huge drain on everyone's day but I'm an emergency preparedness
42:16
nut and I look at the backup just with daily traffic mhm and I'm frightened
42:24
sure as to what would happen should cities out west need to evacuate for some reason there were fire sweeping
42:31
through there's only so many drains in their bathtub sure and I want to be a
42:37
part of that solution for them yeah but I also want to make sure that solution does not come at the cost of Lehigh residents okay so that cooperation
42:44
collaboration is going to be important good forging those relationships well it's I go back to what you said earlier
42:50
with hey we live here too we drive here too so like I like that some of us want everybody wants the problem solved
42:55
yesterday right but the reality is it's not going to be but it's good to know that it sounds like good people are in
43:02
charge of trying to solve some of these problems and you're aware of these problems you're trying to get the money for these problems you're uniting again
43:08
I I do think the power of councils which is what you have with this task force and stuff like that are you're trying to
43:14
get many voices because if you can be unified if Government Can Be unified again to to do what I mean again
43:20
government has a place right you know we just don't like it when government oversteps and but as long as government's doing what they're supposed
43:25
to be doing hey that's great we want government to to fill the role that they're supposed to do which obviously
43:31
this is one of those big roles right and and there's a perception out there and justly so that things don't move fast
43:37
enough sure they they call it red tape for a reason there's there's a lot of roadblocks to get past yeah to get
43:42
things where they need to go but I just we're moving it as moving that needle as quickly as we can good but it's it's a
43:49
tough road but the cities around us I've been so impressed with their councils
43:54
good in terms of uniting and collaborating I think a Dream Team situation because good um we all get
44:00
along very well and it's funny cuz everybody takes their turn hosting yeah okay the the meeting with all the
44:06
different councils and last time we were out we were out in cedar Fort okay so
44:12
even okay yeah yeah even out there um and they did a beautiful job they had it at their community room or whatever and
44:19
everybody drove out to meet but it's so important that we take that road and see what things are like in other
44:24
communities and that we step outside of ourselves and it gives it builds that empathy for what they're facing sure and
44:30
helps us align all of our goals in ways that can be successful for all the communities not just ours yeah CU to
44:36
your point your kids might live out there and a van down by the river hey we give them a house right now their condo
44:42
is my basement okay we're working on it let's get interest rates lower let's let's let's solve every problem that we
44:48
can right now but hours in a day Ryan but we got to put we put our heads down and work right you know but it no but I
44:54
like that you're unifying with them because again whether we all stay in Lehigh or move to these other places we
45:00
lived in Lehigh and then we moved out to Eagle Mountain for a period of 3 4 years and then we came back to Lehigh and so
45:05
that's sometimes what a lot of people do it's we move around and so we're trying to make all of this better and again who
45:11
knows where my kids will end up hopefully around here but but so you want to make it all good you know and that's what you're trying to do right
45:17
and and it takes a lot of faith in the good intentions of others sure I still even after all these years I have this
45:24
almost childlike optimism for the future sure and confidence that the people who
45:29
are in government are there for good reasons sure and the higher you get up
45:34
in levels of government the harder it is to trust that that's why they're there sure but people will I'll hear people
45:40
say the government did this and they just don't care about us and there and and I'll say like to my children who do
45:45
you think they is yes and I'll be like the guys in the people in government the man I'm like it's me son it's me and
45:54
it's Chris and it's Paul and it's Heather and it's and it's Mark yeah these are people do you really think
46:00
it's a them situation these are neighbors people who live here people who love this community people who go
46:06
through a lot to serve this community it's not a them or a they it's us yeah
46:13
we are the government it it's truly we the people on the local level yeah we're
46:18
your neighbors yeah on that note all of us there's only so many positions in
46:24
government and stuff like that thank heavens thank heavens right but if I if
Community Involvement and Volunteerism
46:29
I want to serve or if I want to do something what so what advice do you have for hey I want to make the community better what can I do person
46:37
that's asking this question because I don't want to serve I don't have the time maybe to do that or whatever but I
46:42
do want to help I do want to make things better anything any advice that you you know would give to that person that's looking to just make the community
46:49
better the city actually keeps track of volunteer projects and has a list they can reach out when they need help with
46:55
stuff like that if you wanted to do it on an as needed kind of a basis tons of committees you can serve on and help
47:01
with that always need dedicated people and and even if you wanted to maybe do more in public service eventually it's
47:08
useful to have your thumb on the on the pulse of what's going on sure in the city as city council we are Liaisons to
47:17
different committees excuse me and there are just so many I'm the liaison for the environmental sustainability committee
47:23
okay they do great things lots of proactive efforts in Lehi in terms of
47:28
conservation water-wise Landscaping highlighting recycling programs things like that they do some really great work
47:35
they could always use our hands I'm the liaison for the parks trails and trees committee again really great stuff you
47:42
get to on that committee yeah sometimes you get to actually choose what kind of play structures they if you can look at
47:48
the designs and things like that a little bit that's super helpful there's a library board there's the Historical
47:54
Society there's the Arts Council just lots of places where volunteer hands
47:59
Lots make for light work and it's great to have people in the community help and almost all of those places can put your
48:05
right to work if that's something you want to do Dive Right In Lehi has this huge history of volunteerism sure it's
48:12
remarkable going back to my you know bad habit of reading old newspaper articles it's tremendous to see how this
48:18
community was built on volunteerism sure it really was there almost everything
48:24
you can see around town that is old or whatever has a component of volunteer
48:29
service to it I'm hoping we can bring it back cuz it would be super fun but even things like the library most people
48:35
don't know that the building right next door to you the Hutchins Museum yeah um as well as being the first building
48:41
dedicated as a war memorial M for World War II was also a Carnegie Library oh no
48:46
and when they opened the new old library on the old Junior High cafeteria they did a book Brigade okay and the city
48:54
residents lined up and pass the books to move them from one location to the other
48:59
and people remember that as a contribution that they made wasn't that fun and wasn't it a great day moving all the library books the new location and
49:06
things like that so even even small things have this component of service
49:12
from self sure it's one of the things that I love most about Lehi because we take care of our own we build for
49:19
ourselves yeah and we care for things for the future and it's if you want to
49:26
serve we can put you to work there's work to be done I like that there's work to be done whether it's for a day or for a
49:32
couple months I guess it sounds like so go to bed at night and I'll I'll be tired or whatever have I done any good
49:38
in you have to great attitude for that song that's that's exactly how that song you thinking a minor key okay let me I'm
49:45
going to I'm going to ask you specifically on that question you've been serving for you said eight years
49:51
right close to 10 if you count all the things but I'm in my third term on Counsel okay all right so okay close to 10 years so tell me is there something
49:58
in that 10 years that you're you're most happy with as far as hey here's the good
50:04
I did in the world today oh wow on that that's hard to pick is that is there something that you're like I really like
50:10
that I was a part of this oh there's so many things that have just it's so fun
50:17
it would be so hard to pick and obviously the the softball thing that's yes yeah that's huge CU that's what you
50:23
set out to do initially love being on their parade committee there are things that oh man I'm running through them in
50:29
my mind there's there's no way to talk about them without feeling like I'm taking credit and for so few of them I had almost nothing to do with it it just
50:35
happened and something you're a part of and that's fine you know I wouldn't say this is Paige's baby per se we have I'm
50:43
obviously very proud of the police station we've opened new fire two new fire stations since I've been in office
50:48
okay that's huge those are big things that are obvious to everyone the things that I'm most proud of are the things
50:55
that maybe aren't obvious but might not have happened otherwise 2 years ago my
51:00
nephew and his wife lost their baby and he's from Highland they looked around to
51:09
try and find a place for him and Lehi
51:14
has Lehi has a baby land in their Cemetery that has been put in during my
51:20
time in office it's a really special place it has a beautiful statue and that's where they laid their to rest not
51:28
a whole lot of people know that that place exists yeah but it has become a place of refuge and comfort for a lot of
51:36
families and that's incredibly meaningful to me I love that love that yeah a that's really cool lehi's got a
51:44
lot of cool places it I I didn't know that existed yeah yeah that to be able
51:49
to provide that for grieving families that's when you know that you live in a community that cares even when no
51:56
nobody's watching I was going to say to your point the other things the big things that's the ones those are the
52:02
resume builders there you go that's a good way to say it but this one's like more hey caring for the one the individual which is what we're all
52:08
that's what makes up a community is individuals and no I like that I love that it one of those things where you know being on the parks trails and trees
52:14
committee we were able to look at the Statue help it get put into place and something that our community lacked they
52:20
now have yeah and God willing nobody will need it but if you do Le has a
52:26
place for your little one love that Pages we wrap up here have we covered that's a very sad note I know yeah maybe
Final Thoughts and Reflections
52:34
is there is there anything we haven't covered is there anything that you you wanted to anything things that you just
52:39
love about Lehi or anything that you're excited about or I you it just is a
52:45
great place and I know it's hard sometimes but I try and do it and I try
52:50
and encourage other people to do it to every negative there's a positive sure every single one there 's traffic on the
52:58
roads on the way to paying job that will help someone provide for their family
53:03
sure there's more people in your community that you can serve and you've
53:08
been friends with I can't think of a single person who's moved to Lehigh in the last few years as crowded as we've
53:15
gotten yeah I've made so many friends and met so many great people and that
53:20
excuse me that perspective from Beyond the community yeah has brought a
53:25
richness and depth to the tapestry of Lehi so for every negative that we might
53:31
be going through every just look for that positive Silver Lining because it
53:36
is always there we have a Costco Ryan for all the the challenges that growth
53:42
brings it brings tremendous blessings too we can get through the challenges and I'm grateful for the positives and I
53:49
just would encourage everybody to have that kind of an Outlook because otherwise it can really get you down and
53:55
that's the way I look at everything social media to emails I get and things like that yeah for every one person who
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has you know disgruntled or upset there's a whole lot of people who have good reasons to sure be grateful and
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love it here and that's why we have the growth because we are a great place to live yeah we just are and I would I
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would rather deal with the problems that come with being good growing all those things as opposed to the problems that
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come because there's problems either way if you you're stagnant or if you're decreasing there's problems either way
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Detroit that's right exactly that's where it's going but but there's and which they've turned it around too actually because it's gone down they
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there's been a lot more investment and things got any but like but to that point I guess I'd rather deal with
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problems that come with growth and and stuff cuz there's always going to be problems and and but put your shoulder
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to the wheel I guess get to work you can always find that that positive to it or you and if you can't find it you can
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make it sure yeah yeah no I I like that anything else anything else uh okay
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great Community I love that you're doing this podcast it's fun to always fun to chat about you can tell I get pretty I
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love I get pretty lit up about but that's good and that's it's it's why we like having you on the council because
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again we want good people there that're doing good things and trying to make the city better yeah and and we don't always
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agree you know that stuff or what I always think how frustrating it must be for staff to go to school for eight
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years and put all their learning into a decision then have city council go yeah no like that I I have absolute 100%
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confidence that everybody is there for great reasons yeah good and that's half the battle Yeah Yeah and again they're
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trying to explain complicated things to because things are more complex we want everything simple but there's complexity
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to life and yeah well okay yeah no good simple as a day gone by yes yes thanks
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Paige thanks for coming on the podcast thanks for chatting with me for a little bit and uh pleasure thank for having me
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hopefully this benefits people gets information out there and ultimately just brings the community together which
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is really the point of this is let's make things smaller let's bring things closer BR personal bring the personal
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yeah that's that's that's the goal of this at all you you know I didn't do the edit but if you get through it and it's
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too personal feel free hey you didn't do that so I'm I'm keeping it all no editing here so no thanks Paige
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appreciate you coming on so sure appreciate you and appreciate you bringing business to downtown yes um we
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we need people here I hey I I love my location it it is fantastic it is 2
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minutes from my house is can't get better than that I'm almost excited to be old because I'll be able to walk to the library and the senior center and
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the legacy center and all those places and yeah come walk to pioner Market like
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you you stop to think about the businesses that are downtown and you can get everything from a pedicure to your
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taxes done yeah yeah no again you can do that's when my wife's parents come from
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Back East they're always like oh man everything's so close here cuz they're driving in Georgia and it's through the
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trees there it's a lot further to go and everything's here yeah yeah no we have everything here it uh well and you have
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the best seats in the House for the parade for sure yes yes yes yes we do yeah you can't get any closer here it's
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a good spot okay love to the family yeah thank you same to you yeah yeah miss the old neighborhood but we love being
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downtown too good all righty good thanks Paige you bet thank you thank you for
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joining us on roots and branches of Lehi I hope today's story helped you feel a little more connected to the people who
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make up our community remember every person here has a unique story and together we're what makes Lehi feel like
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home if you know someone who would be a great fit for this podcast please fill out the form in the show notes so we can
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reach out and schedule an interview we'd love to hear from you a big thank you to our sponsors the work Harding Home
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Mortgage team and play Hardy nightly vacation Reynolds for supporting this show and helping us bring our community
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closer together until next time keep growing those roots and reaching out to your branches take care
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